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April 28, 2007
April 28, 2007


Lee Sechrest suggested this would be a good example to discuss how we should react to a claim that an event with an unbelievable small probabillity occurred.
Lee Sechrest suggested this would be a good example to discuss how we should react to a claim that an event with an unbelievable small probabillity occurred.


Jacqueling Gagne is a 47 year old who retired from a computer progrem job and moved to  
Jacqueling Gagne is a 47 year old who retired from being computer progremer and moved to Rancho Mirage, California.  Here she continued her love of sports by playing golf four or five times a week.  Between January and May she made seven holes in one.  In the Desert Sun article we read


<blockquote>Before she recorded her eighth this week, Professor Mike McJilton of the College of the Desert Math and Science Department calculated the odds of making seven aces in approximately 65 rounds (five rounds a week for 13 weeks) as Gagne did is just under 114 million billion to 1. As a decimal number, the chance of making the seven aces is 0.0000000000000000088  
<blockquote>Before she recorded her eighth this week, Professor Mike McJilton of the College of the Desert Math and Science Department calculated the odds of making seven aces in approximately 65 rounds (five rounds a week for 13 weeks) as Gagne did is just under 114 million billion to 1. As a decimal number, the chance of making the seven aces is 0.0000000000000000088  
(8.8*10^-18).</blockquote>
</blockquote>


Another article said that McLilton used the poisson distribution presumeably as an opproximation to the binomial distribution. For this he needed an estimate for the probability that a reasonable golfer makes a hole in one round. This probability has been estimated to be 1/5000. However using  Mathematca it is easy to compute the probability using the binomial distribution with p = 1/5000 and n  =  65.  Doing this find the probability getting seven success to two decimal places  in 65 rounds is 8.8x10^-18 in agreement with Mclilton’s result.
Another article said that McLilton used the poisson distribution presumeably as an opproximation to the binomial distribution. For this he needed an estimate for the probability that a reasonable golfer makes a hole in one in a round. There have been many attempts to estimate this.  You can read about these [http://golf.about.com/od/faqs/f/holeinoneodds.htm here]. Here it is said that the Golf Digest hired Francis Scheid, the retired chairman of the math department at Boston University, to calculate the odds using the latest and best information available. The odds Scheid came up with were lower than any others: 5,000 to 1 for a "low-handicapper," 12,000 to 1 for an "average player." Using these odds and Mathematca it is easy to compute the probability using the binomial distribution with p = 1/5000 and n  =  65.  Doing this find the probability in agreement with Mclilton’s result.


The next mention of calculating the odds was in the ESPN sports news May 24, 2007. Here we read
The next mention of calculating the odds was in the ESPN sports news May 24, 2007. By this time Here we read


<blockquote> We asked one of the world's foremost mathematicians, Joseph B. Keller, professor emeritus of mathematics and mechanical engineering at Stanford, to compute the odds of making 10 aces in 80 rounds (using a previous finding by Golf Digest that the odds of an average player making an ace in any given round are 1 in 5,000). Keller's answer: "Roughly two chances out of 10 followed by 24 zeros. (2/10^25) This is the same chance as picking one particular molecule out of all the molecules in 50 gallons of air."
<blockquote> We asked one of the world's foremost mathematicians, Joseph B. Keller, professor emeritus of mathematics and mechanical engineering at Stanford, to compute the odds of making 10 aces in 80 rounds (using a previous finding by Golf Digest that the odds of an average player making an ace in any given round are 1 in 5,000). Keller's answer: "Roughly two chances out of 10 followed by 24 zeros. (2/10^25) This is the same chance as picking one particular molecule out of all the molecules in 50 gallons of air."

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What are the odds of that?

113,527,276,681,000,000 to 1
Those were the odds local golfer Jacqueline Gagne could make seven holes in one in 14 weeks. The Desert Sun Palm Springs Larry Gohannan April 28, 2007

Lee Sechrest suggested this would be a good example to discuss how we should react to a claim that an event with an unbelievable small probabillity occurred.

Jacqueling Gagne is a 47 year old who retired from being computer progremer and moved to Rancho Mirage, California. Here she continued her love of sports by playing golf four or five times a week. Between January and May she made seven holes in one. In the Desert Sun article we read

Before she recorded her eighth this week, Professor Mike McJilton of the College of the Desert Math and Science Department calculated the odds of making seven aces in approximately 65 rounds (five rounds a week for 13 weeks) as Gagne did is just under 114 million billion to 1. As a decimal number, the chance of making the seven aces is 0.0000000000000000088

Another article said that McLilton used the poisson distribution presumeably as an opproximation to the binomial distribution. For this he needed an estimate for the probability that a reasonable golfer makes a hole in one in a round. There have been many attempts to estimate this. You can read about these here. Here it is said that the Golf Digest hired Francis Scheid, the retired chairman of the math department at Boston University, to calculate the odds using the latest and best information available. The odds Scheid came up with were lower than any others: 5,000 to 1 for a "low-handicapper," 12,000 to 1 for an "average player." Using these odds and Mathematca it is easy to compute the probability using the binomial distribution with p = 1/5000 and n = 65. Doing this find the probability in agreement with Mclilton’s result.

The next mention of calculating the odds was in the ESPN sports news May 24, 2007. By this time Here we read

We asked one of the world's foremost mathematicians, Joseph B. Keller, professor emeritus of mathematics and mechanical engineering at Stanford, to compute the odds of making 10 aces in 80 rounds (using a previous finding by Golf Digest that the odds of an average player making an ace in any given round are 1 in 5,000). Keller's answer: "Roughly two chances out of 10 followed by 24 zeros. (2/10^25) This is the same chance as picking one particular molecule out of all the molecules in 50 gallons of air."

Mathematica gives 1.7/10^25 in agreement with Keller’s estimate.

By June 3 Jacqueline had made 14 holes in one in the past 5 months. Again using the Binomial model, the probability of this event is 3x10^-35

Of course people were suspicious of a fraud but they were able to find witnesses to all of her hole in ones. Her authenticity gained further support when a TV station sent a crew to interview her and she hit a hole in one while they were there.

An interesting discussion of what to make of all this is found in an article by CARL BIALIK JUST HOW AMAZING IS JACQUELINE GAGNE -- AND HER 10 GOLF ACES? Section B, Column 1, May 18, 2007

The most interesting discussion of this event is